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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2007, 12:51:29 PM »

Just do a search for Tahirih Justice Center. There is an article on the feminist founder of the Bahai religion named Tahirih and there is one on the TJC.

Jeffy2000 is the Bahai guard there who would do everything to hide any controversy about the TJC.

Erald Kalasi, the son of the Albanian woman who works for the TJC, may have finally found a boyfriend at college, so maybe he no longer guards there himself (he wrote the article originally).

Erald's happiest day, according to his blog, was when Spain legalized gay marriage.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2007, 07:41:55 PM »

I read the Wako-pedia entry on "mail order bride" (mis-spelling intended!)

Things are not much better in Australia.  Since 2003, the Australian Federal Government's resolve to decrease what they deemed to be "inappropriate immigration" has gained momentum.  Their Minister for Immigration and Multicultural affairs has "strengthened relations" with Russia by committing to a timetable for reducing "Russian human trafficking" into Australia.  Their program "Today Tonight" aired footage of a young Russian born Australian who claimed to be "imported" by a site to be used as a sex slave by her "husband" while being confined to her Sydney home.

It seems the whole world is on a witch hunt to punish people who simply want expand their horizons and meet people outside of their normal sphere of access.  Happiness went out the window while "normalcy" is being shoved down everyone's throat!  It's all being done in the name of preventing violence that occurs anyway in all male/female relationships regardless of how or where they meet!!

By the way, just as an aside, Judge Clarance Cooper claimed that "domestic violence is much higher in immigrant marriages than domestic ones".  Isn't this a contradiction of the 1999 INS study which indicated just the opposite?  Who's got their facts straight?
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2007, 08:01:03 PM »

Delphi,

The 1999 Scholes study commissioned by the INS found that the abuse rate among international marriages fostered by internet was one seventh the rate among domestic marriages.  However, Scholes found this hard to swallow and while he did report these findings he also made statements to the effect that "this is hard to believe" and that "experts agree it should be higher".  (TJC uses this line all the time, "experts agree", to justify ANYTHING they want to prove against men.)

Thus, Tahirih, and probably Cooper, rely on Scholes' stated opinion rather than his stated facts.

Naturally, relying on the (biased) opinions of a researcher and ignoring the facts he found is wrong.

Now, I am not certain which part of Judge Cooper's opinion you are referencing, but I guess he footnoted the Scholes study to support his position here.  If so, this is intellectually dishonest as Scholes' facts do not support this.

But Judge Cooper had to be intellectually dishonest to state that IMBRA is Constitutional.  And for those (not regular posters here) who maintain that the law is Constitutional because it was made by the legislative and executive branches and upheld by the judicial branch, I say this: remember Dred Scott and Korematsu.

In the 1857 Dred Scott case, the Supreme Court said that: Any person descended from black Africans, whether slave or free, is not a citizen of the United States, according to the U.S. Constitution.

In the 1944 Korematsu v United States case, the Supreme Court said it does not violate the Constitution to lock up Americans who happen to be of Japanese ancestry.

In both cases the Court was wrong!  (And in the case of Korematsu the government issued an apology in the 1980s and paid reparations.  Perhaps there will come a time when the government apologizes for supporting kneejerk feminism and pays men like us reparations.  Hey, that give me an idea.  Maybe when the first man sues IMBRA, he should ask for reparations for feminism.  Now THAT will get him headlines.)

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Advocacy groups that get taxpayer money for "protecting" foreign women and the thoughtless media call foreign woman a "mail order bride" if she met her husband via internet.  This is American imperialism, it is denigrating, insulting and portrays the women as helpless fools.
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2007, 06:53:36 AM »

Wow. The Coalition Against Trafficking in Women is now calling "Mail Order Bride Selling" prostitution:

http://www.catwinternational.org/about/index.php

This should prove to those who are complying with IMBRA that the enemy has no desire whatsoever to stop moving forward in their efforts to completely ban the dating of foreigners.

Note the pride with which they show the Independent Charities certificate.

Somone should contact the Independent Charities people and ask them why this radical group is cleared for giving tax-free charity to.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2007, 08:58:05 AM »

This was just written at www.mensnewsdaily.com about the Fathers for Justice stunt at the Lincoln Memorial a few days ago:

Former Massachusetts Women's Bar Association President Elaine
Epstein stated, "It has become essentially impossible to effectively
represent a man against whom any allegation of domestic violence has
been made." She also wrote in a column in the association's
newsletter that divorce-connected restraining orders are doled
out "like candy." "Everyone knows that restraining orders and orders
to vacate are granted to virtually all who apply," and "the facts
have become irrelevant," she reports. "In virtually all cases, no
notice, meaningful hearing, or impartial weighing of evidence is to
be had." Yet a government analysis found that fewer than half of all
orders involved even an allegation of physical violence yet 47
states have laws on the books that require family judges to consider
such allegations or findings when they make child custody decisions.
When life-altering decisions are based on false or trivial
allegations, it's the children who lose out.

To conclude...the actions of F4J would NOT have been necessary IF
our government listened to the legitimate grievances of its people.
There is absolute proof they have not. The VAWA is one of them.
When they pass laws protecting only select people, it is unjust.
When they listen and ask for citizen input from only select people,
any resulting laws would be unjust. When laws are passed that put
all the burden on one group of people while another group has all
the rights given by the burdens of the other group, the resulting
laws will be unjust. If we pass enough of these laws, we will be
right back to the place we were in 1775...when these 56 men felt the
need to violate the laws of the land...and write...The Declaration
of Independence.

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2007, 04:43:57 PM »

Philosophy of the Coalition Against Trafficking in Women   
   
"Sexual exploitation is a practice by which person(s) achieve sexual gratification or financial gain or advancement through the abuse of a person's sexuality by abrogating that person's human right to dignity, equality, autonomy, and physical and mental well-being."

Does this mean they are going to shut down Chippendales, ban lesbian porn and stop American women from going on sex tours to the Caribbean?

Oh thats right. They are trying to "protect women" (i.e. make tons of money in the lucrative "womens protection" racket/industry), but when men are exploited that is okay.

" All prostitution exploits women, regardless of women's consent."

Those ignorant, uneducated, non-English speaking $500 a night hookers in Wash, DC can't decide for themselves so WE"LL do what is best for them because WE know better than they do. They only give their "consent" because they are trying to escape desparate circumstances and a life of poverty servicing rich male politicians.

By the way, WE NEED MONEY, LOTS OF IT. Send in your donation today.

I wonder how much the "directors" of this one of the myriad of "womens protection" rackets rakes in every year?

With all these 1,000's of unregulated "womens protection" gangs and the billions they are bringing in, I'm surprised every prostitute or "trafficked" woman isn't given a cut of the take to better her life.

Oh wait, thats right. These organizations are meant to better the lives of the people running them (just ask Layli Miller-Muro) and if the "problems" are over there is no more money to be made.

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2007, 07:55:01 PM »

Here is some text from that demented web site:...

Prostitution includes casual, brothel, escort agency or military prostitution, sex tourism, mail order bride selling and trafficking in women.

Guys, we have to band together and start fighting for our freedoms like never before.  There is a real war raging out there.  It's getting scary!
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2007, 12:57:15 PM »

It is a signal of the desperation of Feminists to try to extort Men into staying at home and Marrying Feminized US Women. Men are not idiots and have seen what not adapting to the one sided nature of US Marriage has become. The fact is that if Feminists were right about the nature of Men and our relations to Women. We would just beat our Women into submission. That Violence against Women is declining show that Men have adapted. And have decided Feminized US Women are too risky to marry.

Getting a Model Airhead like Tyra Banks who Married a Car Jacker in shorts Chris Webber is a laugh riot. Yeah she sure married a Working Man. Typical FemNag hypocrite. Why should we settle for a wife who does not meet our needs? Because NOW, the Feminist Majority, the Feminist Action League says so? I love the Feminist Action League's rally at the University of New Hampshire. Where they passed out scissors to symbolize castrating of Men.

Why are these groups doing nothing about the Sex Vacations of Western Women? Who pick up younger Men for Sex in Africa and the Carribean? This is again nothing more than a cynical attempt to regulate Males sexually by Lesbians.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2007, 06:21:16 PM »

"they passed out scissors to symbolize castrating of Men."

Now imagine if a group of men were handing out whatever doctors use to perform masectomies. They would be arrested and thrown in jail. No double standards there.

Actually feminism has been slowly castrating men since its inception by way of anti-male symbols like propaganda, "re-educating" the media and young school boys, anti-male laws and other various forms of hysteria - all funded with our tax dollars of course.

"Actually I think IMBRA is a much better symbol of castrating men." says Layli Miller-Muro, "But we do have special Tahirih Ju$tice Center Corporation made scissors that are womanufactured sprecifically for the actual physical castrations of men. Our Lorena Bobbit model is especially popular amongst feminists. Heh Heh Heh."

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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2007, 08:22:00 AM »

The Internet has become the hottest battleground for Media domination. Since the Digital Divide, meaning Older Americans who subscribe to Newspapers is declining. Newspaper circulation is declining everywhere in the Country. The Audit Bureau of Circulation shows clearly Newpapers are declining in Viewership or subscribers.

The growth of the Men's movement has happened online. And younger people Generation X especially are plugged in. So the FemNags are desperately trying to hijack Wikipedia and the explanation. It will not work. There are too many Men's Blogs and other sources for them to stiffle or silence their opposition.

If Wikipedia allows themselves to be manipulated they risk losing their usefulness and as a source of Valid non biased information. It will hurt them in the long run. The Main Stream media is primarily Advocacy Journalism. They have an agenda and use the facts to Spin their Version of reality they are trying to sell.
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