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Austria4Ever
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2007, 06:08:06 PM »

I like Taylor's attitude even though I disagree that the best men will continue using American "IMBs".

This is the starting gun that many have been waiting for. We will now see if any millionaires are going to pony up to defend the right to say hello.

Any new lawsuit has to be accompanied by a political threat.

The Republicans need to be put on notice that they, with the exception of Giuliani, will suffer more abuse in the Congressional elections of 2008 if they continue to support the VAWA.

RADAR should be informed that Jackass Cooper upheld VAWA in his dishonest decision.

By the way, Cooper called Steckel a liar.

That is the thanks Preston got for trying to agree with the radical feminist concept that "personal contact information" should not be given out.

I am sure Preston will agree now that this was a mistake.

Give the other side an inch and they take a mile.

Cooper did not even have to make a decision that "personal contact information" constitutes this and that nor that "personal contact information" should not be given between two people.

Cooper was not forced to decide if a woman's anonymous hotmail.com address really constitutes personal contact information.

IN OTHER WORDS, AS FAR AS EC WAS CONCERNED, I WAS WASTING MY TIME POSTING HERE BECAUSE NOT EVEN EC WAS LISTENING TO ME NOR TAKING ME SERIOUSLY.

EVERY NINTH OR TENTH POST I MADE WAS EXPECTED TO BE TURNED INTO A COURT BRIEF.

FRANK'S OCTOBER POST ON THE EXPATRIATION ACT NEEDED TO BECOME AN EC COURT BRIEF.

I DID NOT POST HERE FOR MY HEALTH, BUT THAT WAS THE ATTITUDE OF BOTH AODA AND EC.

There was no sticking together at all in this ordeal over the past year. Tristan, Taylor, Dave, Frank and many others were totally ignored by EC and AODA.

But then again, seeing that Judge Cooper turned out to be such a jackass, it may be better that the ammunition was saved for the next case.

We were just waiting for this start signal. We thought from the TRO that Judge Cooper was smart.

Then again, maybe Cooper was told by the socons above him that they would overturn anything he said that did not uphold IMBRA?

Most of what has been said at ODR has NEVER BEEN MENTIONED IN COURT.

But we will need a $100,000 PR campaign threatening the Republican politicians with loss of office in 2008...to go along with the lawsuit.

If we cannot get on the political radar, it will take as long as it did with the Expatriation Act to get rid of this.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2007, 10:34:17 PM »

“The law suits were not expected, but in many ways it was a gift of precedent for future laws.”--ItoldyouSo

Think of it, Thomas Rose called men a commodity that required full disclosure requirements.  He also believes that free speech can be regulated.

Clarence Cooper thinks that a federal judge shouldn’t ever question laws that have been enacted by our government involving domestic violence.

Wow, what great legal precedents.  I guess if we want to outlaw abortion we can classify it as domestic violence against infants. That way the courts will not try to second-guess the decision of any legislature that passes such a law. 

If we want to outlaw pornography, we can state that we are not regulating adult’s exposure to nudity.  We are only regulating the context within which they can look at nude bodies.

We can even limit feminists to two divorces subject to a government waiver.  We aren’t regulating their ability to get married, only the context within which they get married.

We can limit single women’s access to contraceptives.  Since promiscuous sex promotes the spread of diseases, and the use of contraceptives promotes sexual behavior, society has a compelling need to limit women’s access to contraceptives.  We can use the argument of “protecting women” from sexually transmitted diseases.

Those are some future laws to ponder.  Do you think that the Religious Right might want laws that are similar to this?

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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2007, 12:04:36 AM »

"Cooper called Steckel a liar." What does that make Layli and her fabricated "facts and stats" that could easily be checked out? Sure gives you confidence in the justice system, doesn't it?

Every man has his price. Obviously with our tax dollars, TJC could afford Cooper's. Propaganda with taxpayer money won this battle (for now) but the war is far from over and that is what counts in the end.

As to Stinky, your post was expected of course (why do you keep changing your name?)
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2007, 01:16:31 AM »

Judge Clarence Cooper's price was that he wanted President Hillary Clinton or President Obama to give him a Supreme Court position.

He was clearly told that good things would happen in his career if he reversed his original attitude. He was told that there were no upper middle class businessmen out there who were opposed to this law (or if he looked at ODR, he pretended not to have known about it).

But you readers are all going to past the name of Judge Clarence Cooper all over the blogs and forums so his nomination, should Giuliani lose this bid for the presidency, will be passed over.

Right?

I learned my lesson. My gut instinct always told me to call the court myself and try to speak to anyone about how I could get my point across without a lawyer.

I bet the feminists were doing this and not letting us know about the action.

Of course people in a free country can contact a court that is making a decision. It might not do any good, but it is legal to try. The socons at FreeRepublic are plastering the courts with protests about the COPA law being overturned at the district level for the second time.

Over at FreeRepublic.com, they post the phone numbers and email addresses of all the interns and aides of the circuit that will be hearing the COPA appeal.

In fact, what is weird was that a business trip yesterday delayed my decision to personally call the Georgia court yesterday.

If I had not been on a trip, I would have called at the exact time the ruling was coming out...meaning I would have been too late anyway.

The factor that drove me to the decision to finally call the court myself (an action never realized) was when I read the transcript of Jeanne Smoot's testimony 7 days ago and realized that she had won the debate against a very politically correct and unprepared opponent who granted her "expert" status for being a radical feminist who hates men.

I still have not seen a copy of Preston Steckel's testimony...which shows a huge problem with the American justice system. If a guy like me who actually cared about such matters was still unable to see a trial transcript...there was a miscarriage of justice in that factor alone.

Somebody might want to file a lawsuit (or intervene in the appeal) specifically stating that the transcripts of the trial should have been made available online with the rest of the court documents.

I did not even know until the shocking decision last night that Preston had said that giving out "personal contact information" (ie a woman's anonymous hotmail address that she wants the world to know about) was wrong and that he did not engage in this...completely handing the case to Tahirih and pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.

I say the decision was "shocking" because of the complete reversal in attitude of the judge and the revelation of some of what had transpired in Preston's court testimony that I had not known about before.

If I had been able to see the transcripts last year, history would have been different. We would not have wasted a year to get the actual citizen lawsuit we are going to get now.

We are now a year behind, but look at it this way: we only realized that our rights were in jeapardy a year ago when they were completely taken away.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2007, 11:55:33 AM »

I am going to file my own suit.  If there are any attorneys that are willing to help me, please let me know.  My email is michaellovesnyc@aol.com
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2007, 02:08:32 AM »

This time around, I would not mind multiple lawsuits, as long as the lawyers mine ODR for material and ask Tristan, Taylor, Dave, me or some other ODR person to proofread their briefs.

1) There will be no agreeing with IMBRA in any way. That is what cooked EC. They agreed with the law and even agreed that giving out contact information is bad.

2) You will also need a few "experts" to testify. Someone from RADAR can testify that the Congress is going nuts over any crap the feminists put out.

One of us at ODR should also be asked to play Randy Miller in a practice trial. We want the lawyer to be prepared with sharp answers to everything that can be said.

Meanwhile, anyone with $200 might consider doing a press release TODAY to counter Tahirih's new press release that is full of mistruths (background checks are "information"). Do a Google search on online Press Release services. Be prepared to leave your phone number so journalists can reach you as an "expert".

Or better yet, donate now to ODR so we can do more press releases.
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