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« on: March 26, 2007, 03:16:43 PM »

***Admin note:  This topic refers to the lawsuit filed by a dating company, European Connections, against the US government to have IMBRA declared unconstitutional based on freedom of speech.  The lawsuit did not challenge the right to assemble.  The lawsuit was filed by a dating company, and the judge specifically addressed the fact that he was ruling on commercial speech.  To date, no single man or woman has sued the US government over IMBRA claiming a violation of freedom of speech or freedom of assembly.

Today the decision on European Connections was handed down.
Not only did they deny the injunction but they are forcing EC to pay defendants costs. 

This is bullshit


- 40 -
IMBRA is highly likely to reduce domestic abuse – and may actually save
lives. The health and safety of foreign women that IMBRA seeks to protect
substantially outweighs any pecuniary harm that IMBRA may cause to some IMBs.
When balancing the harms in this case, the Court is confronted with the classic
“blood-versus-money” analysis, and the safety of foreign women coming to the
United States clearly is the more vital interest.
IV. Public Interest
In this case, the public interest has been vindicated – through the public’s
representatives in Congress – through the enactment of IMBRA. The public has a
keen interest in having its representatives enact legislation to protect women from
domestic violence, and the public also has an interest in avoiding the wisdom of
such legislation second-guessed in a judicial forum. Domestic abuse is a significant
public concern, and the public interest will be vindicated by denying Plaintiff’s
request for a permanent injunction that would bar the enforcement of IMBRA.
CONCLUSION
Based on the findings and conclusions set forth above, the Court DENIES
Plaintiff’s request for preliminary and permanent injunctive relief. All motions
presently pending on the Court’s docket are DENIED as moot. The Court
DISMISSES Plaintiff’s Complaint with prejudice and DIRECTS the Clerk of Court
to mark this case closed.
SO ORDERED this 23rd day of March, 2007.
s/ CLARENCE COOPER
CLARENCE COOPER
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
Case 1:06-cv-00426-CC Document 49 Filed 03/23/2007 Page 40 of 40
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2007, 03:31:16 PM »

Sad day for dating rights for the whole country, although most people don't realize it yet.  No doubt the femifascists will be emboldened to enact even more draconian laws now.  Also, any hope that the agencies that caved and went "IMBRA-compliant" will reverse themselves is probably gone for now. 

But we just have to pick ourselves up and continue the fight on other fronts.  The agencies and their lawyers have proven themselves incredibly inept so far.  It's time for individuals to pick up the fight.  And from now on lawyers have to be chosen carefully.  Hopefully a new restraining order from such a suit can be issued so that the feds won't tighten enforcement of this idiot law anytime soon.


P.S.  I look for Pinky to show up and gloat any minute now.  Not worry, eventually we'll have our day.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2007, 04:07:01 PM »

"they are forcing EC to pay defendants costs."  (Didn't Arnold & Porter say they spent "millions" on this case so that they can after the big fish - Match.com, eharmony.com, etc.?)

Too bad EC didn't realize that if they lost this case, they are out of business. If they think they will have enough clients willing to give out their personal info (or even go through the sex registry) in order keep their service going, they are sadly mistaken. Of course they can try going under the pretense of complying until the legion of TJC "plants" naps them.

They should have pursued this as a Constitutional issue, not a monetary one. Layli can tell you that you have to be concerned about people first (or the guise of in her case) and then the money (her main goal along with Bahai domination) will come in.

I'm hope EC has enough money saved to retire, although that will probably be eaten up pretty quick when Tahirih Justice Center decides it is time for them to pay for all the trouble they have caused them (aka Revenge Of The Bahai.)

Let's see. $25,000 fine + 5 years in prison times X amount of violations (well documented and fabricated by TJC "experts") equals retirement funds for a lot of defense attorneys to delay (but not prevent) spending the rest of your life in prison broke and looking for a pen pal - NOT the "pen pal" sharing your cell with you.).

Now Layli can concentrate on IMBRA 2, which will imprison men who lie about themselves while being interrogated during their search for a real wife!

I imagine Layli will be booking a flight to Switzerland soon (1st class of course) to visit her bank account there.

Can you imagine the orgy going on at TJC headquarters? Can you imagine the dollar signs in the eyes amongst the other members of the FEMINIST-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX? Can you imagine Pinky's smiling face on this site?

Can you imagine ONE guy with the balls and money to fight IMBRA as a private American citizen fighting his right to privacy and Constitutional rights? Does "pro-choice" only apply to women?

The World Bahai domination continues - first America, then the world! Goodbye to Christian infidels! Convert or DIE!

One thing for sure. You know Osama must be smiling!

First go the men's rights to marry non-feminist women. Then the banning of those lurid "Mens" magazines that exploit women! Goodbye to Hooters! Goodbye to strip clubs! Goodbye to football games on tv! Goodbye to prostitution and other forms of "sexual exploitation" of women! Goodbye porn (well, except for girl on girl!) Goodbye America! Hello Bahai-land aka The United Feminist States!

I wonder if Judge Cooper ever heard of the Constitution? He should have made this decision on April Fool's Day.

"IMBRA - the "politically correct" version of THE EXPATRIATION ACT OF 1907! You WILL obey!" commands Layli.

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2007, 04:50:39 PM »

Preston didn't think it necessary to mention the Expatriation Act of 1907.

Judge Cooper clearly never did a Google search.

Where the hell is the link to the case? Why do I not have a copy of the decision in my inbox?

From now on, no more ignoring ODR like Preston did and like AODA did.

In a way, I am relieved that we may not have to follow the EC case like ignored waifs anymore.

The next case will include lots of PR and the Expatriation Act as well as any other good find will be pushed front and center.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2007, 05:18:45 PM »

 I told you so. In many ways we have you and others to thank for our victory. There was one major dividing line between us and you. We took action while you guys did nothing but talk. Now that we have two court decisions backing us, it will make future dealings go much easier. The law suits were not expected, but in many ways it was a gift of precedent for future laws. Thank you and your supporters for making the future brighter for women all over the world.

I will admit, I held my breath at times thinking you guys may actually have the gumption to do something. The last thing we needed was more law suits while fighting two. If you want to bring it on now, come on.

Don’t feel too bad ODR. You did fulfill the entertainment we needed when we took a break from taking action. Those outrageous words (what happen to the big law suit the man who lives outside the U.S. said was coming), characters like Frank with all talk and no action and the small group of 15 that thought big but did little (more like nothing). Keep talking ODR because that is all you can and ever will do.

Now lets hear all the experts and your excuses why EC lost. You guys truly are the idiots of no conviction. Sit around criticize others and do nothing. You should adopt that as your motto –

Something like:

“Talk with no action, blame others who take action or we know what is best but  no guts to back it up.”

Next case.........LOL...........yea, right.

Even though the time and effort put into this site is useless, I hope you stick around just for fun.

If not ...


Nah, Nah, na, na, hey, hey, hey goooooooooooodbye.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2007, 05:21:02 PM »

Actually, I did have the decision in one of my inboxes.

It shows that Preston, as I have been saying, agreed too much with IMBRA and he was defeated because of it.

1) He stated that he did not give out personal contact information and clearly implied that he did not agree with doing that.

THIS WAS A MASSIVE MISTAKE. What could he (and we) have expected the judge to think if the plaintiff himself was saying that he had no right to be a matchmaker and give out information as matchmakers have done for centuries.

PRESTON UPHELD THE RECENT CONCEPT THAT THE NEW TECHNOLOGY OF ANONYMOUS WEBMAIL MAKES IT SO WE CAN NOW PERMANENTLY BAN THE OLD STYLE OF INTRODUCING PEOPLE.

It makes me wonder why we did not intervene on that matter alone.

2) His lawyer spent ages arguing the IMB regulations as "overbroad" instead of concentrating on why any interference was against the Right to Assemble.

3) He allowed a radical feminist who just graduated from Harvard to be called an "expert".

4) Most important: PRESTON DID NOT DISCUSS FEMINISM AND FEMINIST POLITICS AS THE RATIONAL EXPLANATION FOR WHY CONGRESS ACTED IRRATIONALLY:

Read this money-quote from this jackass judge:

Thus, European Connections cannot prevail by showing that the distinction drawn by IMBRA is not supported by sufficient data or research; nor may European Connections prevail by arguing, as it did at the evidentiary hearing, that Congress is required to investigate the validity of sociological evidence presented to it before legislating in that field. Rather, European Connections must affirmatively prove that Congress acted arbitrarily and irrationally. In contrast, the government “has no obligation to produce evidence to sustain the rationality of a statutory classification.”

Pinky: The reason why nothing was being done until after the decision was because Judge Cooper had originally shown that he understood that the Right to Assemble was involved. That he turned out to be a feminist jackass is a total shock, but it was the right decision to wait to find out if this would be the case.
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2007, 05:36:09 PM »

The arguments that are being used to justify this law should now be used to get this law applied to all American dating sites and dating agencies.  The law violates equal protection under the law.  There is no reason why foreign women should be afforded more protections than American women since there is no evidence that the level of domestic abuse is worse in cross-cultural marriages than in domestic marriages.  The minute this law is applied to domestic dating sites, it will “crash” all romantic communication on the Internet.  Once that happens, people will want to get rid of this excessive law completely.

If American feminists are going to deny foreign women the right to meet and marry American men (that is IMBRA’s practical effect), then that right should be denied to American feminist women as well.  All dating sites and dating agencies should be subjected to laws like IMBRA.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2007, 05:46:45 PM »

I just finished reading the entire decision.

Jackass Clarence was clearly hoping to be promoted by Hillary Clinton to the Supreme Court. He is African-American and he was probably told that this + a pro-IMBRA decision would make him a shoe-in.

Pinky just said that they were "doing something" while we were doing nothing. Apparently, they did not wait for the decision but influenced it. Judge Cooper forgot all about what he said in the TRO. There was too much of a change there.

It should be easy to make a new case but we will need heavy PR support. He did not mention the Right to Assemble because he was not forced by EC to do so and that is good because they clearly needed a client to discuss this right.

He also did not mention any Right to Contact Foreigners. In fact, he completely ignored the rights of the males involved.

There was zero sign that he ever found ODR online or was aware that we existed.

In the meanwhile, he probably received tons of mail from feminists and socons.

In fact, that is what probably happened and what Pinky implied when she said that "we did something while you idiots at ODR sat on your hands".

We allowed ourselves to be convinced by a very few others that writing letters to the court was not acceptable.

So ZERO men probably wrote a letter to the court in the past year while I bet the TJC had the opposite strategy: secretly telling as many women as possible to write to the court.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2007, 05:50:15 PM »

I told you so. In many ways we have you and others to thank for our victory. There was one major dividing line between us and you. We took action while you guys did nothing but talk. Now that we have two court decisions backing us, it will make future dealings go much easier. The law suits were not expected, but in many ways it was a gift of precedent for future laws. Thank you and your supporters for making the future brighter for women all over the world.

I will admit, I held my breath at times thinking you guys may actually have the gumption to do something. The last thing we needed was more law suits while fighting two. If you want to bring it on now, come on.

Don’t feel too bad ODR. You did fulfill the entertainment we needed when we took a break from taking action. Those outrageous words (what happen to the big law suit the man who lives outside the U.S. said was coming), characters like Frank with all talk and no action and the small group of 15 that thought big but did little (more like nothing). Keep talking ODR because that is all you can and ever will do.

Now lets hear all the experts and your excuses why EC lost. You guys truly are the idiots of no conviction. Sit around criticize others and do nothing. You should adopt that as your motto –

Something like:

“Talk with no action, blame others who take action or we know what is best but  no guts to back it up.”

Next case.........LOL...........yea, right.

Even though the time and effort put into this site is useless, I hope you stick around just for fun.

If not ...


Nah, Nah, na, na, hey, hey, hey goooooooooooodbye.

What have you won?

I will admit that it will make the future brighter for women in other parts of the world (at least those with access to computers).  With background checks, they will be ensured to get the best men America has.  I personally could care less about the background checks.  You on the other hand, will be left with what remains behind.  Wink

 
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2007, 05:58:07 PM »

each case may have to be fought individually. these people can more than help. you witches 'll laugh till one of these boy's lay hook to your jaws. http://members.aol.com/rommellaw/
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